X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Berni » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:10

No DLSS support? What's the reason you've picked the inferior AMD solution over DLSS?

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:27

Can we get Boso in the yacht swimming pool? That is the only question I need answered now.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Riccardoman » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 23:04

Tamina wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:11
And it is amazing how Egosoft listens to the community, or at least has the same ideas.
I'm also very surprised tbh. From what I can remember this is the first time they managed to do something like that on such large scale. That makes me really hopeful for the future of the series

Super excited for the new DLC and other future releases more in line with this approach!

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by phrozen1 » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 00:00

Sounds pretty good.
But i will stay sceptical because i have some open questions.
- Where is the "multiplayer"-feature which was announced as a big thing and now there is no mention of it...
- I hope one "recycle"-ship means one per faction not like the builders...
- Why is a real diplomacy-system (which was announced as a regular feature years ago and has so much potential) still not a thing?
(you also can`t change inter-faction-relations in custom gamestarts)
- For pirating to be a real thing there are lot of things that need to be changed, i hope they will be.

pretty sure i will buy it, because i had lot's of fun with x4 allready. But there is still a lot of room for improvement in the base game.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Axeface » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:01

phrozen1 wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 00:00
- Why is a real diplomacy-system (which was announced as a regular feature years ago and has so much potential) still not a thing?
I had forgotten about that, I wonder what happened to those plans.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Panos » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:11

steph_m37 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 21:01
but the non-support of Nvidia cards will make me quit the game
Hows X4 doesn't support Nvidia cards? Does it only run on AMD GPUs? :gruebel:
Berni wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:10
No DLSS support? What's the reason you've picked the inferior AMD solution over DLSS?
Because FSR runs on both AMD & Nvidia GPUs.


To both.

The game due to the engine runs 40% faster on Nvidia GPUs comparable to equivalent AMD GPUs. Irrelevant if is on Linux or Windows. Is the game engine.

Almost ALL AMD GPU owners playing X4 find ironic from Nvidia users crying about DLSS, Ray Tracing, FSR. Have you seen any AMD owners here writing "non-support of AMD cards, I will quit the game"? Nope and we do have serious perf issue which is unresolved not some nice to have functionality.

And do not forget. When Egosoft implemented in the 4.10 beta FSR even GTX900 owners were celebrating in here as it gave life to their ancient GPUs, let alone GTX1000 users. (my laptop has GTX1060 6GB desktop 5700XT so I count on both groups).

DLSS doesn't run on anything but RTX2000/3000 series, limiting the investment/benefit to a very narrow subset of users while FSR runs on all NV GPUs at least from GTX900 onwards (many run FSR on GTX700s) and AMD 400 onwards including the Ryzen APUs (on Linux at least R9 290/390 too).

That is a very wide user base.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by RodentofDoom » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:49

Will the DLC be featuring new audio tracks too ??

Have always enjoyed the X-series compositions ... so very relaxing to listen too :)

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Biggtex » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 02:32

Looks phenomenal. Can’t wait.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by LameFox » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 03:16

Has there been any sign of reverse engineering or otherwise stealing blueprints for ships and equipment? It's kind of... hard to overstate how important I consider this to pirate gameplay.
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Post by DavidGW » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 06:17

LameFox wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 03:16
Has there been any sign of reverse engineering or otherwise stealing blueprints for ships and equipment? It's kind of... hard to overstate how important I consider this to pirate gameplay.
Reverse engineering ship and equipment blueprints would be even more useful for pirates if you could somehow steal/reverse engineer wharf/shipyard/equipment dock modules.

Obviously whatever method there is should be extremely expensive, and/or difficult, due to the huge cost of the blueprints.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by LameFox » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 06:20

DavidGW wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 06:17
LameFox wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 03:16
Has there been any sign of reverse engineering or otherwise stealing blueprints for ships and equipment? It's kind of... hard to overstate how important I consider this to pirate gameplay.
Reverse engineering ship and equipment blueprints would be even more useful for pirates if you could somehow steal/reverse engineer wharf/shipyard/equipment dock modules.

Obviously whatever method there is should be extremely expensive, and/or difficult, due to the huge cost of the blueprints.
Yeah, that needs to be part of it as well. Adding pirate factions is all well and good but the player is really a faction unto themselves and should not have to ally to someone else in order to act as a pirate. I hope they're adding it in there somehow.
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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by mr.WHO » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 07:40

RodentofDoom wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:49
Will the DLC be featuring new audio tracks too ??

Have always enjoyed the X-series compositions ... so very relaxing to listen too :)
This one is a sure - trailers has new music with guitar (I think for the first time in whole X-series).
The DLCs always come with additional soundtrack to buy, at least on Steam.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Berni » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 09:12

Panos wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:11
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And do not forget. When Egosoft implemented in the 4.10 beta FSR even GTX900 owners were celebrating in here as it gave life to their ancient GPUs, let alone GTX1000 users. (my laptop has GTX1060 6GB desktop 5700XT so I count on both groups).
...
Wait! What am i missing here...? I use 4.20(3) and can't see any FSR option in the graphics settings?
Is it a tweak that i have to enable via some .xml or .ini-file?

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by LameFox » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 09:35

It was around in the previous beta, I remember trying it for a bit, but it kept giving me weird screen tearing at the time. Maybe it wasn't ready yet.
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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by alt3rn1ty » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 11:20

So looking forward to this, but have reservations about how well it will perform after new factions / ships / stations are added, I am already on the hairy edge of how many ships and stations I can personally own without bringing performance down on the laptop (due to now having to support miners more with patrols and escorts).
Regardless I shall be participating, and probably turning into a pirate :)

But will the games cap of 10000 ships (I think thats correct) per current factions be reduced to say 9000 per faction, to accommodate the extra faction having 9000 of their own?, and keep the X4 game still compliant with its published minimum spec?, or will this DLC have additional machine spec requirements.

Towing will be thing! - Wonder if this mechanic will only apply to scrap from wrecked ships, or have more uses (like a hidden ship / rescue mission similar to something we have experienced before in X3 involving a huge yacht).

Also will recycling wrecks be a permanent removal of the wrecks?, ie can we potentially clear up a sector for better performance of the sector (looking at all the Xenon wreckage around Scale Plate for example), or will it only be killed shipwrecks as opposed to placed shipwreck furniture?, and if its the former would we need to grab Abandoned ships fast before the scrappers beat us to a claim?

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Post by alt3rn1ty » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 11:20

LameFox wrote:
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~ Maybe it wasn't ready yet.
Thats why they took it back out of the game for the time being.
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Post by LameFox » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 11:26

I would hope it is an interaction with wrecks from killed ships, so that it matters what is going on around us, and does not merely run dry and never matter again—that would be pretty weird and disappointing.
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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Gavrushka » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 11:45

I really do hope that pirates can board player/faction ships in the expansion, maybe even ransom the ship/crew too.

Very much looking forward to it, and hope there's gonna be further DLC after this one too.
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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Panos » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 13:21

Berni wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 09:12
Panos wrote:
Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:11
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And do not forget. When Egosoft implemented in the 4.10 beta FSR even GTX900 owners were celebrating in here as it gave life to their ancient GPUs, let alone GTX1000 users. (my laptop has GTX1060 6GB desktop 5700XT so I count on both groups).
...
Wait! What am i missing here...? I use 4.20(3) and can't see any FSR option in the graphics settings?
Is it a tweak that i have to enable via some .xml or .ini-file?
Yes it was in game with 4.10 Beta 5 some had issues many didn't and were happy about it.

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Re: X4: Tides of Avarice - Egosoft reveals next chapter of X4 space saga

Post by Wehrwolf_10 » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 14:37

I definitely need one-eyed captains in my new fleet. Although, perhaps they can have two eyes, but without a leg! :P

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