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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Sat, 15. Oct 22, 21:38

fiksal wrote:
Sat, 15. Oct 22, 20:43
but if you are given a weapon, point it at the real enemy.
Seem like your wish came through - aparently there was a shootout in military unit in Belgorod, where recruits opened fire - there are a dozen killed and many wounded:

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/15 ... 2403032064

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by felter » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 00:54

I heard it was two gunmen from a Russian Provence that opened fire on the volunteers, killing 11 and wounding 15 (I think) and the two gunmen were also killed. The Russians haven't said if the two gunmen were also volunteers or not.

OH yeah, Musk is now saying even though I'm loosing a lot of money I will continue to supply Ukraine with Starlink, so either he got his advertisement, someone said something or he himself noticed it wasn't making him look good.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by fiksal » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 01:22

mr.WHO wrote:
Sat, 15. Oct 22, 21:38
fiksal wrote:
Sat, 15. Oct 22, 20:43
but if you are given a weapon, point it at the real enemy.
Seem like your wish came through - aparently there was a shootout in military unit in Belgorod, where recruits opened fire - there are a dozen killed and many wounded:

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/15 ... 2403032064
I suppose yes.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by chew-ie » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 12:41

That'll teach those dangerous musicians! Russian troops kill Ukrainian musician for refusing role in Kherson concert

Simply no words left.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by fiksal » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 17:41

chew-ie wrote:
Sun, 16. Oct 22, 12:41
That'll teach those dangerous musicians! Russian troops kill Ukrainian musician for refusing role in Kherson concert

Simply no words left.

@source: theguardian.com

fruits of the propaganda.

the atrocities run themselves now without maybe even a need for a command from above
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by euclid » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 20:52

Not new (some may know it already) but I think it's worth to watch: Interview (starts at 0:50) with Andrey Kortunov, director of the Russian Council (RIAC). Imho a very smart chap who responds to tricky quiestions in a quite subtile way.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Sovereign01 » Sun, 16. Oct 22, 21:04

Ukraine: Russian reservists 'likely purchasing their own armour' as prices soar online, UK says.
Russian reservists are "likely required to purchase their own body armour" as prices for armoured vests soar online, according to the latest intelligence update from the UK Ministry of Defence.

The defence intelligence update states that "endemic corruption and poor logistics" remain one of the main causes for "Russia's poor performance" in Ukraine.

The 6B45 vest, which is meant to be on general issue to combat units as of the Ratnik personal equipment programme, has been selling on Russian sites for 40,000 roubles (approximately $640 or £570), up from around 12,000 roubles (approximately $190 or £170) in April.

"Contingents of mobilised Russian reservists have been deployed to Ukraine over the last two weeks," the intelligence update states.

"Their average level of personal equipment is almost certainly lower than the already poor provision of previously deployed troops."

It comes as the US vowed to send Ukraine a new $725 million package of weapons and other military assistance, adding to a flurry of aid announcements from European allies this week.

It follows the UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace's announcement that the UK will send anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine to help protect their skies.
Britain will also give £10 million to the military alliance’s funding package to help provide humanitarian assistance to Ukraine including winter clothes, shelters, generators, fuel trucks and ambulances.

Regions of southern Ukraine illegally annexed by Russian President Vladimir Putin saw more heavy fighting on Saturday as Ukrainian soldiers pressed a ground campaign to recapture one, and Russian forces exploded long-range missiles and Iranian-made drones in another.

In the Zaporizhzhia region, Governor Oleksandr Starukh said the Russian military carried out strikes with kamikaze drones from Iran and long-range S-300 missiles.

Dmytro Pocishchuk, a hospital medic in the Zaporizhzhia region's capital who has treated dozens of people wounded during Russian attacks in recent weeks, said people sought safety outdoors or in his building's basement when the familiar blasts started at 5:15am on Saturday.
“If Ukraine stops, these bombings and killings will continue. We can’t give up to the Russian Federation,’" Pocishchuk said several hours later.

The neighboring Kherson region, one of the first areas of Ukraine to fall to Russia after the invasion and which Putin also illegally designated as Russian territory last month, remained the focus of a Ukrainian counteroffensive.

A missile strike also seriously damaged a key energy facility in Ukraine's capital region, the country's grid operator said.

Kyiv region Governor Oleksiy Kuleba said the missile that hit a power site on Saturday morning didn't kill or wound anyone.

Citing security, Ukrainian officials didn't identify the site, one of many infrastructure targets the Russian military tried to destroy after an October 8 truck bomb explosion damaged the bridge that links Russia to the annexed Crimean Peninsula.
Ukrainian electricity transmission company Ukrenergo said repair crews were working to restore electricity service, but warned residents about further possible outages.

Kyrylo Tymoshenko, the deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, urged residents of the capital and three neighboring regions to conserve energy.

“Putin may hope that by increasing the misery of the Ukrainian people, President [Volodymyr] Zelenskyy may be more inclined to negotiate a settlement that allows Russia to retain some stolen territory in the east or Crimea,” said Ian Williams, a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a policy organisation based in Washington.

“A quick look at history shows that the strategic bombing of civilians is an ineffective way to achieve a political aim. ”

This week's wide-ranging retaliatory attacks, which included the use of self-destructing explosive drones from Iran, killed dozens of people.

The strikes hit residential buildings as well as infrastructure such as power stations in Kyiv, Lviv in western Ukraine, and other cities that had seen comparatively few strikes in recent months.

Putin said on Friday that Moscow didn't see a need for additional massive strikes but his military would continue selective ones.

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The Institute for the Study of War, a think tank based in Washington, interpreted Putin's remarks as intended to counter criticism from pro-war Russian bloggers who “largely praised the resumption of strikes against Ukrainian cities, but warned that a short campaign would be ineffective."

Russia has lost ground in the nearly seven weeks since Ukraine's armed forces opened their southern counteroffensive.

This week, the Kremlin launched what is believed to be its largest coordinated air and missile raids since Russia's invasion of Ukraine on February 24.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Mon, 17. Oct 22, 09:13

As someone mentioned this before - it really resemble V1/V2 strikes at London:
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/15 ... 3517875201

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by euclid » Mon, 17. Oct 22, 17:35

Interview with Boris Bondarev (start at 1:30ish), over a month old but still interesting. It's rather long (1 hrs) but worth watching.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by EGO_Aut » Mon, 17. Oct 22, 19:22

WANTED
They said Girkin is on the front, helping Putin to win or die. :gruebel:
He can not surrender to UKR, will be a fast job, he knows whats going wrong :roll:

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Tue, 18. Oct 22, 20:38

JSDD wrote:
Mon, 26. Sep 22, 20:59
mr.WHO wrote:
Sun, 25. Sep 22, 18:00
Unfortunately with sheer human and material advantage of Russia, Ukraine window to retake the areas occupied since February will become less and less likely.
If they won't retake them before winter, then it will go into stalemate for sure.
now, you are getting a bit more realistic :wink:
now is the time ukraine can make advances and retake territory
if winter arrives and western deliveries keep stagnating at current levels ... then its game over for ukraine
// and europe will be flooded with refugees as russia targets civilian infrastructure
... as i've said a while ago, ukraine gonna have a hard time this winter ^^
(today, over 1000 cities in ukraine dont have electricity)
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Tue, 18. Oct 22, 20:52

JSDD wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 20:38
... as i've said a while ago, ukraine gonna have a hard time this winter ^^
(today, over 1000 cities in ukraine dont have electricity)
Nice, more war crimes, but what goes around comes around - Russian winters are even more harsh and their power plants might have more "malfunctions" than usual.


Who knows, maybe US will see this as good field test of those SMRs (Small Modular Reactors) tech - Putin thinks he play poker, but West has far more cards to play.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by felter » Tue, 18. Oct 22, 21:23

JSDD wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 20:38
... as i've said a while ago, ukraine gonna have a hard time this winter ^^
(today, over 1000 cities in ukraine dont have electricity)
And you think that is something to celebrate, Baby's, children, the old and infirm, suffering and dying from the cold, and you think that is great and should be cheered about. :cry:
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Vertigo 7 » Tue, 18. Oct 22, 22:47

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And you think that is something to celebrate, Baby's, children, the old and infirm, suffering and dying from the cold, and you think that is great and should be cheered about. :cry:
To some degenerates, the more suffering Ukraine endures, the higher the likely hood they'll capitulate to Russia and then somehow their higher energy bills will start decreasing. There's nothing you can say that will trigger empathy in them. There's nothing you can say that will convince them that Russia is wrong for what they're doing. They're just broken people, long before this war even started. The world does not exist beyond their line of sight and what they behold is theirs, to their mind, and attempting to introduce reality into their fantasy world is met with derision and dismissed. Some people are just beyond help, as sad as it is. The best course of action is to honestly let them wallow in their ignorance and misery alone. Let them shout into their vacuum. You and I know no one is listening. No one that matters will praise them for their support of Russia. No one will be convinced by anything they have to say, at least, no one anyone would be upset about losing.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by chew-ie » Tue, 18. Oct 22, 22:57

Vertigo 7 wrote:
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To some degenerates [..]
Those are surfacing for the last two years now but it's with all things in live - the sinus curve will change again. Meanwhile the world shuffles friends for the next good times.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by felter » Wed, 19. Oct 22, 01:46

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 22:47
felter wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 21:23
And you think that is something to celebrate, Baby's, children, the old and infirm, suffering and dying from the cold, and you think that is great and should be cheered about. :cry:
To some degenerates, the more suffering Ukraine endures, the higher the likely hood they'll capitulate to Russia and then somehow their higher energy bills will start decreasing. There's nothing you can say that will trigger empathy in them. There's nothing you can say that will convince them that Russia is wrong for what they're doing. They're just broken people, long before this war even started. The world does not exist beyond their line of sight and what they behold is theirs, to their mind, and attempting to introduce reality into their fantasy world is met with derision and dismissed. Some people are just beyond help, as sad as it is. The best course of action is to honestly let them wallow in their ignorance and misery alone. Let them shout into their vacuum. You and I know no one is listening. No one that matters will praise them for their support of Russia. No one will be convinced by anything they have to say, at least, no one anyone would be upset about losing.
I just don't understand it, I mean you can't get any lower than someone who knowingly kills children and baby's with their actions, there's a special place reserved in hell for them, and those that support them will be standing right next to them, so to admit to it is just baffling. I do wonder what their families would say if they knew.

It looks like Kherson is on the verge of falling to the Ukrainians, with the Russians saying they are going to evacuate the civilians, but here's the thing, they can't supply their own troops with essentials how are they going to manage to evacuate civilians, I think they are fantasying once again.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by burger1 » Wed, 19. Oct 22, 03:37

There was a media blackout for Kherson maybe two days ago. So Kherson's likely to get retaken somehow. Hopefully they figure out a way to do it in a non costly manner. And with as few people abducted as possible. They are taking children again from some regions to put up for adoption in Russia.

Might also be why there's an increase in strikes on civilian targets.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by chew-ie » Wed, 19. Oct 22, 06:39

Best of luck to whatever part of Ukraine gets liberated from russian forces next!

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Wed, 19. Oct 22, 07:44

felter wrote:
Wed, 19. Oct 22, 01:46
Vertigo 7 wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 22:47
felter wrote:
Tue, 18. Oct 22, 21:23
And you think that is something to celebrate, Baby's, children, the old and infirm, suffering and dying from the cold, and you think that is great and should be cheered about. :cry:
To some degenerates, the more suffering Ukraine endures, the higher the likely hood they'll capitulate to Russia and then somehow their higher energy bills will start decreasing. There's nothing you can say that will trigger empathy in them. There's nothing you can say that will convince them that Russia is wrong for what they're doing. They're just broken people, long before this war even started. The world does not exist beyond their line of sight and what they behold is theirs, to their mind, and attempting to introduce reality into their fantasy world is met with derision and dismissed. Some people are just beyond help, as sad as it is. The best course of action is to honestly let them wallow in their ignorance and misery alone. Let them shout into their vacuum. You and I know no one is listening. No one that matters will praise them for their support of Russia. No one will be convinced by anything they have to say, at least, no one anyone would be upset about losing.
I just don't understand it, I mean you can't get any lower than someone who knowingly kills children and baby's with their actions, there's a special place reserved in hell for them, and those that support them will be standing right next to them, so to admit to it is just baffling. I do wonder what their families would say if they knew.
... dont be hypocritical

zelenski did the same with crimea by blocking fresh water supply so that russian convoys of trucks had to resupply 2.5 million civilians with drinking water day by day
now who's the "bad guy" ?! :gruebel: :roll:

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Wed, 19. Oct 22, 07:52

JSDD wrote:
Wed, 19. Oct 22, 07:44
... dont be hypocritical

zelenski did the same with crimea by blocking fresh water supply so that russian convoys of trucks had to resupply 2.5 million civilians with drinking water
now who's the "bad guy" ?! :gruebel: :roll:

... and in the words of mrWHO
"what goes around comes around"
I won't even bother asking how many Russian have died to the lack of water last 8 years, especially that Russia, in all it's wisdom, decided to settle additional 2 milion of Russian in Crimea that time. Really great solution to water shortages!


As for Zelensky analogy, you missed the mark completely - it would work if Russia would limit itself to shutting down powerplants and infrastructure on THEIR side of border, not bombing Ukraine.
Recently they started to 9/11 they own housing blocks with fully loaded military planes, so maybe they will soon - the bar for Russia stupidity is yet to be found.

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